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		By: indiakids blog		</title>
		<link>https://rishiknots.com/2010/08/21/steven-hassan-on-huffington-post/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for commenting. In all fairness and honesty, I was writing out of anger and frustration, about never having a place at the table. And while I don&#039;t particularly fall in line with the 1st gen. ex-3HOers, I shouldn&#039;t have used the word Cult in regards to Kamalla.  To any survivor of a cult, I realize it can be an injurious word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think my feelings around the 1st gen ex-3HOers centers around the feeling of being &#039;trotted out&#039;, just as we were as kids growing up, and my own mis-trust over it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, you know, I don&#039;t come across many 2nd generationers who speak up openly and honestly about their experiences, or who fight for that place at the table.  If we allow ourselves to be trotted out one way or another, it makes no difference whether we are in 3HO or out of 3HO.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wacko World site, albiet a useful tool, can be a spiral, or perhaps a less useful place for commiseration. But I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a cult. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My apologies to Kamalla for the injurious blast of misdirected frustration. Sincerely, Kelly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting. In all fairness and honesty, I was writing out of anger and frustration, about never having a place at the table. And while I don&#39;t particularly fall in line with the 1st gen. ex-3HOers, I shouldn&#39;t have used the word Cult in regards to Kamalla.  To any survivor of a cult, I realize it can be an injurious word.</p>
<p>I think my feelings around the 1st gen ex-3HOers centers around the feeling of being &#39;trotted out&#39;, just as we were as kids growing up, and my own mis-trust over it.</p>
<p>But, you know, I don&#39;t come across many 2nd generationers who speak up openly and honestly about their experiences, or who fight for that place at the table.  If we allow ourselves to be trotted out one way or another, it makes no difference whether we are in 3HO or out of 3HO.</p>
<p>Wacko World site, albiet a useful tool, can be a spiral, or perhaps a less useful place for commiseration. But I don&#39;t think it&#39;s a cult. </p>
<p>My apologies to Kamalla for the injurious blast of misdirected frustration. Sincerely, Kelly.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad I am not the only one who thinks Kamalla Rose Kaur is running an exes cult. The Wacko World of Ex-3hOers. I get some good history and links on the site I might not get anywhere else, but it is a serious cult. How many years have they been together? 10 years now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I am not the only one who thinks Kamalla Rose Kaur is running an exes cult. The Wacko World of Ex-3hOers. I get some good history and links on the site I might not get anywhere else, but it is a serious cult. How many years have they been together? 10 years now?</p>
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		By: indiakids blog		</title>
		<link>https://rishiknots.com/2010/08/21/steven-hassan-on-huffington-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indiakids blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand the reporters&#039; parameters for using legal names and &#034;being out&#034; -- I read the paper every day, what about all the thousands of investigative journalism in which a source is anonymous.  I won&#039;t give up my privacy to a journalist who has not examined the consequences of coming out openly against any group that causes harm to its children in this way.  They need to examine the causality of the fear and the deeply embedded anxiety which is associated with any individual born and raised in a cult.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kamalla, thank you for speaking up for yourself.  I do want to continue to emphasize that the many 2nd generationers who have since left often times feel at odds with the ex-3HO group of the 1st generation.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope that my blog, with all my ranting aside, can illuminate the differences, but also clarify the similarities between us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t understand the reporters&#39; parameters for using legal names and &quot;being out&quot; &#8212; I read the paper every day, what about all the thousands of investigative journalism in which a source is anonymous.  I won&#39;t give up my privacy to a journalist who has not examined the consequences of coming out openly against any group that causes harm to its children in this way.  They need to examine the causality of the fear and the deeply embedded anxiety which is associated with any individual born and raised in a cult.</p>
<p>Kamalla, thank you for speaking up for yourself.  I do want to continue to emphasize that the many 2nd generationers who have since left often times feel at odds with the ex-3HO group of the 1st generation.  </p>
<p>I hope that my blog, with all my ranting aside, can illuminate the differences, but also clarify the similarities between us.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[2nd Generation testimony trumps all other testimony of survivors from YBism. At the Wacko World of Yogi Bhajan http://forums.delphiforums.com/KamallaRose/start we have been gathering testimony for our online books for many years. A few but not many 2nd Generation X-YBers have contributed. We want your stories and they can be shared anonymously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for newspapers, they want us to come out with our real names. Only Gursant Singh and I are out at the moment and involved in the activism of helping journalists. Since I have been feeding the various journalists all their data, I have gotten over-exposed in their prose. Never noticed, however, any XYBer doing anything I might request of them so if I run a cult, I am a failure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2nd Generation testimony trumps all other testimony of survivors from YBism. At the Wacko World of Yogi Bhajan <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/KamallaRose/start" rel="nofollow ugc">http://forums.delphiforums.com/KamallaRose/start</a> we have been gathering testimony for our online books for many years. A few but not many 2nd Generation X-YBers have contributed. We want your stories and they can be shared anonymously.</p>
<p>As for newspapers, they want us to come out with our real names. Only Gursant Singh and I are out at the moment and involved in the activism of helping journalists. Since I have been feeding the various journalists all their data, I have gotten over-exposed in their prose. Never noticed, however, any XYBer doing anything I might request of them so if I run a cult, I am a failure.</p>
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		By: indiakids blog		</title>
		<link>https://rishiknots.com/2010/08/21/steven-hassan-on-huffington-post/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Steven.  I am familiar with your perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Steven.  I am familiar with your perspective.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate your comments and wrote something on the huffpost. I invite you to be in touch with me so we can talk. The next few weeks are very difficult, but after Labor Day would work. I humbly invite you to read Combatting Cult Mind Control and you will understand more of my perspective as an ex-moonie. I would also invite you to communicate with second generation folks from other cults. There are sites and blogs for ex- moonies, scientology and more. Compare notes, you will find it fruitful, I think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My office number is on my www.freedomofmind.com web site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve Hassan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your comments and wrote something on the huffpost. I invite you to be in touch with me so we can talk. The next few weeks are very difficult, but after Labor Day would work. I humbly invite you to read Combatting Cult Mind Control and you will understand more of my perspective as an ex-moonie. I would also invite you to communicate with second generation folks from other cults. There are sites and blogs for ex- moonies, scientology and more. Compare notes, you will find it fruitful, I think.</p>
<p>My office number is on my <a href="http://www.freedomofmind.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.freedomofmind.com</a> web site.</p>
<p>Steve Hassan</p>
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